Saturday, September 14, 2013

TelexFree UK Office is a lie, and here's proof (UPDATE: "New" address is also a lie)

Previously I've explained why TelexFree has no US office. Both addresses are just a mailbox. Recently TelexFree suddenly started showing a UK office:


And it quickly mushroomed into various Facebook groups, unofficial announcements that "TelexFree opportunity has reached UK", and so on and so forth.

No one seem to have even bothered to check the actual address itself:

15 Bromet Close, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD17 4LP UK


What if you Google that address? You will find that it's home to many different businesses. This is just on the first page:


They can't all have the EXACT SAME ADDRESS, can they? 


But wait, there's' even MORE businesses with that exact same address!



Even more companies sharing the exact same address! That only happens if this is not a real address, but merely a mail stop. 

Also notice that nobody bothered publishing a picture of this UK office. You know why? Because it doesn't exist. Address goes to a building's front door, not to a specific office. 

Someone paid a company registrar in UK to register a company called TelexFree. There is nobody in UK running TelexFree. 

So you're asking, wait, don't they *have* to have someone in UK? Nope. Here's an American (living in San Diego, CA) who runs at least 5 companies with that SAME ADDRESS in UK:

http://www.companydirectorcheck.com/benjamin-beau-patrick-hale

Conclusion is undeniable: TelexFree is intentionally trying to deceive its members regarding its place of business.

UPDATE: A commenter pointed out that a new address was published:

3 More London Riverside London, Greater London SE1 2RE United Kingdom

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27 comments:

  1. Hello, MLM Skeptic. The day before your post was published, I made a comment on a news reporter's blog in Brazil telling exactly the same you tell in this post. I included as much information as I could. However, I wrote it in Portuguese. The URL for my text is http://jornalggn.com.br/blog/luisnassif/o-numero-0800-da-telexfree and it's in the single post's comment. I already tried to use Google Translate to translate it to English, and the result is pretty understandable.

    I suggest you to translate that page to English using Google Translate, pick some info from there, and then extend this post here a little, with that extra info. If you wish, I can do a proper translation manually and post here, no problem.

    TelexFree's false "UK Office" has not yet been reported in the news here in Brazil, and I'm struggling to spread this word, specially in the news here, as much as I can. As a very respectful blog, I believe you should do it, too.

    Thanks a lot.

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    1. That website's not loading at all.

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    2. (Text was too long, so I split in two. Here is second part.)

      Below, in another website providing information about companies registered in England, you can see near the bottom of the page , under "Companies near by Telexfree LTD", a list of registered companies in the addresses surrounding Telexfree in England.

      http://www.companieslist.co.uk/08666840-telexfree-ltd

      It is surprising to see that there are more than 30 companies registered at the address 15 Bromet Close, Watford, Hertfordshire, WD17 4LP. Below is a list of 32 names of companies, all with the same address, and all extremely suspicious:

      BIG NUTRA LTD, CANVAS OF LOVE LIMITED, COOL NUTRA LTD, COOLHANDLE LIMITED, CYPRUSACCOUNTS.COM LIMITED, DEGREE DIGITAL LIMITED, DESTINI CORPORATION LTD, DETERMINED NAMES LTD, DYNAMIC PARTNERSHIPS CORP LTD, GOLD GATE MEDIA LIMITED, GOLD NUTRA LTD, GREAT NUTRA LTD, HEALTHE SCIENCES LTD, HEALTHY NEW BEGINNINGS, INC. LTD, HELP NUTRA LTD, HL-ETS LIMITED, IBILL MEDIA LTD, INSISTO MEDIA LIMITED, JESSICACHERRYEU LIMITED, JUMP BEAUTY LTD, LAB NUTRA LTD, MAPLE CORNER CONSULTING LTD, NATURAL BREAKTHROUGHS RESEARCH LIMITED, NUTRA JUMP LTD, NUTRA MEGA LTD, OR TECH INTERACTIVE LTD, ROCKHEART MEDIA PRODUCTIONS LTD, TELECOM4U LIMITED, TIGEN UK LTD, TVCM LIMITED, VALENCIA AND VANGUARD LTD, XPLOCIAL LTD

      One possible explanation for this is that there are sites like "register-a-company-in-England-fast".

      This makes me wonder if there are suspicions that companies are interested in registering a company in England for some reason. So they contact these sites, providing only minimal information, such as chosen name for registration and name of the director. I imagine the registrar takes care of getting a registration number and an address in England for the company. The address, of course, seems to be false. It seems that this procedure has been used to register various companies, and there has been not even concern to disguise by choosing a different address for each: all were registered at the same address, including Telexfree .

      I share here a picture that I share on Facebook (in portuguese):

      http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/5626/c4z1.jpg

      This image is a summary of the entire story. As you can see, information here are of easy confirmation, as everything is freely available on the internet.

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    3. You noticed you have "JessicaCherryEU", i.e. one of TelexFree's cohabitants? Can you guess what is Jessica's "profession"?

      I also encourage you to search "ErinTaylorSins", and check her address. Not at work though. That is "NSFW" (not safe for work).

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    4. Yeah, and there are more cohabitants in this fashion. Definitely not good for a company who wants to look "serious".

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  2. Hahahaha, they changed their address!!!! They noticed everybody caught them.

    Now the new address of TelexFree's "UK Office" is:
    3 More London Riverside London, Greater London SE1 2RE United Kingdom

    Now we just need to investigate a little to discover if it's true or not.

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    1. It's Regus virtual office:

      http://www.regus.com/locations/virtual-office/london-london-bridge-more-london

      Just like their US office.

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    2. Is this going to be a new "whack-a-mole"? Hmmm?

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    3. Hahaha, exactly. Once again, as they did with their US office, they don't give the room number, or suite number. They just indicate the building, but no details.

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  3. Just one more thing, in the following page:

    http://www.companieslist.co.uk/08666840-telexfree-ltd

    At the "company documents" tab, there is a document called "statement of capital". In the document description, one reads "GBP 1".

    Am I wrong, or this means TelexFree was registered in UK with a total capital of ONE single pound?

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  4. Ok, I don't want to extend this subject forever, but hey, don't put the blame on me. TelexFree is responsible for my posts here.

    The thing is: they changed their address AGAIN. One more time. It's incredible. Their brand new address is:
    137 ABBOTS ROAD, ABBOTS LANGLEY, HERTFORDSHIRE, ENGLAND, WD5 0BJ

    They didn't change it on their website, but UK companies information sites already list this as their new address. Check it out:

    http://www.companieslist.co.uk/08666840-telexfree-ltd

    Companies House also confirms this: www.companieshouse.gov.uk/info

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    1. Same thing: mail stop.

      Tons of businesses at the same address. More than a few escort services.

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  5. Strangely the same address "15 Bromet Close" is associated with a number of other companies perpetrating on line scam. There are a couple of other addresses nearby which all have the same characteristics: US Director with ambiguous address (doesn't match anything on google maps exactly). If it was one instance I would say so what but a dozen of similar profiles is a stretch.

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    1. There's probably a TON more businesses at that address that we haven't seen. I wouldn't paint that address as "beehive of online scam" just yet. Virtual address is going to attract a lot of shady companies as well as companies that want to look bigger than it is.

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  6. the company in USA 225 Cedar hill dr Mass is there for you to go visit by apointment, I have been there for a metting were you coming from? do you know that building have so many suites for that purpose of many business in some building? like doctors ofices buindings have so many suites each with different professionals? thats too bad you missed the cruise in last month ...

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    1. And what does it prove since Regus also offers meeting room by the hour? And what is the Suite number of TelexFree, hmmm? Face it... THEY DO NOT HAVE ONE.

      Boasting of the good times you had? Is that some sort of pride or vanity I am sensing? Of what exactly? That you got paid by TelexFree? Given that TelexFree is an illegal enterprise, I'm not sure that's a *good* thing to be boasting of.

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  7. It seems they gave up faking to have an address at Regus Building, next to the Thames river. Their new website shows again the first address given in England (which is also a fake address): http://www.telexfree.com/institutional/hq

    However, this is not the official registered address for TelexFree Ltd at the Companies House website. Come on, TelexFree, get to an agreement and decide where you want to place your fake UK headquarters.

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  8. we all know what Telexfree is. But the fact is if you join early enough to stand a good chance of making a lot of money, depends how much you want to invest. If you join it at the end then you will lose your money.

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    1. Why join such a lousy scam then? How do you *really* know you're in early enough?

      Face it, you're playing someone else's game. You're merely a pawn.

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  9. i really don't know why telexfree didn't buy one entire building... coz money they have! i say millions - too much millions or starting billlions

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    1. The obvious answer (may or may not be correct) is they went to that "cruise" and other extravaganzas (instead of paying you all).

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    2. thats the whole point, no physical address, only a P.O box or similar to receive post, every single person that are registered with them are their "lets say employees", and their laptops and computers at home is their office, by doing that they make the money to pay you back commision, simples they don't pay thousand of pounds a month for rent and employees. Twitter, facebook, google and some search engines started that way is how they made the money and grew up.

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    3. You don't really know how Twitter, Facebook, Google, and others started, did you? They never used any virtual offices. They have a solid idea and got venture funding or research funding and can afford real office right at the beginning.

      People only use virtual office to "look bigger than the company really is". It's fraud.

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  10. How can I get in touch with this company labnutra?

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    1. I imagine you would Google that address, then check CompaniesHouse.gov.uk and see if you find contact info other than address.

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  11. Does this company exist anyway, is it serving people to the best because I see some people are so into it

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    1. It "exists" in that it exists in government databases, and have phone cards that work.

      But that's NOT what you're asking, is it? You may want to read the other articles I have on TelexFree

      http://amlmskeptic.blogspot.com/search/label/TelexFree

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