Sunday, December 15, 2013

Bad Argument: I Only Listen to People Who Made Money

One of more "cultish" arguments raised by followers of a particular scheme (starts with V) is "I don't have to listen to you. I listen to people who made money! How much did you make, huh?"

A somewhat more polite version would be, "If I want to play basketball I want to be like Michael Jordan. If I want to play football I want to be like Peyton Manning. If I want to make money I'll want to be someone who has made lots of money, such as my leader _______ in ______."

This sounds like it made sense... For about 3 seconds.

Why would you NOT want to emulate the top billionaires in the US of A... like Bill Gates (Microsoft), Warren Buffet (Berkshire Hathaway), or Larry Ellison (Oracle), or heck, Mark Zuckerberg (Facebook)? Why would you suddenly lower your goalpost? What sort of crazy argument is that?

It's like saying, "I want to be the best in the field... EXCEPT when it comes to money!"

WTF?! Man... WTF.

But wait, there's more!

Those who look into the first statement will also immediately see a potential problem... that it ASSUMES that whoever is used as idol, that person is making money through a legitimate enterprise or method. After all, technically anybody can make a ton of money by going into the illegal narcotics business, right? The risks are huge, but those people *do* know how to make money... supposedly. Why not look up to them?

Both statements also has a "cult" feel, in that it discourages people from seeking alternate views, and shuts down learning, as if anybody else is not worth listening to. This is an integral part of cult mentality, known as "Thought Control". Once they got you thinking only their thoughts instead thinking your own thoughts, they own (pwn?) you totally.

Basically, this is a slogan that sounds good, but makes no sense upon inspection. It's useful to occupy one's mind temporarily, used as a part of "shock and awe" to overwhelm the target's mental reserves as a form of subtle coercion, but does not stand up to closer scrutiny.

[Inspired by YPRPariah blog post ]

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  2. Another scam, man

  3. Did you know Darren Hardy, John Maxwell, Donald Trump, Richard Branson, Bill Gates, Kevin Harrington, Les Brown, Grant Cardone, and multiple other business magnates supports MLM industry? It's not a perfect industry to get involved with, but neither is any other industry. I think it's one of the better industries that you can reach success much easier and faster. It's not a utopian industry where everyone is rich and happy, that's just not how the world works, but I can agree that it is fair, meaning everyone who gets started has a level playing field. I'm part of an MLM company, but it's not something that consumes most of my time. I merely show it to friends who need an opportunity. I invited a friend 5-6 months ago. She was completely broke, she didn't come from a wealthy family, they live in a very run down house. She took the opportunity and within short few months of HARD and CONSISTENT work, she now is making 6 figure income and helped countless other people change their lives. Not all of them make incredible amount of money. Regardless, they aren't disappointed either whether they make a lot of money or not. They are happy with their lives, because they are surrounded by people who create solutions, not problems. There are also other friends that I've invited down and they completely hate it and says that it's a scam and were aggressively negative about it, which wasn't a problem to me. I just merely told them it was up to them to get involved. 6-8 months from then, they were still in the same place they started. Bitter, negative, and blames everyone but themselves. I am still good friends with them, I just don't bring MLM around them. I'm sure you've dug very deeply in every type of argument anyone can bring up for MLM, so I'm not going to bother too much with that. Since groups aren't controlled by the company, I'm aware that some people do business unethically. How I've seen the most successful group run their business is with proper ethics. They answer questions, and they make it clear not to invest their money, if they're not willing to put the work, because they're not going to make any money. I agree that there are some bad sides to MLM, such as if the leader of the organization is a bad influence (greedy, shady, etc) it can rain down on the entire group and make a negative impact of the industry. I also don't like that everyone can't win, but whether in the real world or in a network marketing company, not everyone wins. There are probably a lot of more bad stuff about MLM, but I mainly focus on what's good (which outweighs the bad). Anyways, regardless that you like MLM or not, it's just not for everyone, and either way, it's going to keep growing with or without us. Over the past few decades that MLM has been around and gaining more and more exposures, the industry has been growing (currently 160 billion dollar industry now which is more than NFL, music, movie, video games, and about 40%~ is share among the distributers). We can hate on it all we want, but the numbers don't lie, people are more open to MLM and it is more accepted by the year. It's not shrinking, it's growing, and rather quickly.

    All the best :)

    1. Are you here to argue for the bad argument or to argue for MLM in general?

      Donald Trump is a shadow of his glory days. His sole stab at MLM is he "co-wrote" a book with Robert "Rich Dad? That's like Harry Potter" Kiyosaki. His "Trump Network" MLM died back in 2012. His "Trump University" got sued by New York.

      Richard Branson, a LONG time ago, had "Virgin Cosmetics" which was MLM back in 1997. He dumped the company at 2006, and the company that bought it died in 2011.

      Hardly "success stories" like you are implying, eh?

      "Business magnates" are the 1%, and which of them had REACHED their position through MLM? Hmmm? As for "support", I'd say you've been fed a bit of baloney. You better check your sources.

      MLM has been around for decades, and it's not growing that much comparing to the economy. Official DSA stats says 2-3% growth year to year. Sure it's growing... along with the recovering economy, which means NOTHING. "Rising tide floats all boats".

      And you really need to pick the right topic to rebutt.