tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post977877762440144691..comments2024-03-27T17:02:31.780-07:00Comments on A (MLM) Skeptic: MLM Mythbusting: Did Harvard Business School Really Develop 3 Criteria of Successful MLM Companies? (No, they did not!)GuyReviewshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comBlogger74125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-49055207535617602392019-05-01T17:01:24.395-07:002019-05-01T17:01:24.395-07:00Me neither. Me neither. Rikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09898918479367342381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-11339791678040366452018-06-13T12:49:49.511-07:002018-06-13T12:49:49.511-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.seoexperthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06801410501138696016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-33939489032606421622018-02-10T15:01:44.245-08:002018-02-10T15:01:44.245-08:00Your digression from topic is duly noted.
Given ...Your digression from topic is duly noted. <br /><br />Given how Herbalife got its knuckle rapped and how Vemma is on life support, there is no doubt that MLM model is abused throughout the world, whether with or without the company's knowledge.<br /><br />I never said MLM is a scam. If you aim, at least point toward a general target. Some MLMs are legitimate enough, but whether they are actually good for the participants is a separate debate altogether. <br /><br />As for your example, people work over 20 years fired and is left broke, sure, but they were putting food on the table for those 20 years. Based on income disclosures, most MLMs failed to do that for 90% of its participants every year. Besides, how many MLMs survive for 20 years? Hmmm? <br /><br />Your tactic reminds me a lot of the Gish gallop. <br /><br />It's not negativity when it's fact. You're just like Trump yelling "fake news". GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-42318790089590642282018-02-04T19:09:22.238-08:002018-02-04T19:09:22.238-08:00Kasey with all respect i think you are choosing th...Kasey with all respect i think you are choosing the wrong battle. MLM is a well established industry period all over the world. And understand before a business model get established there is some legal requirements to go through with any government which mlm companies have been perfectly compliant reason they exist and still exist almost after a century. Careless if Harvard teaches that are not still remains fact lots of Products and services are being distributed through this business model. Now even banking institution as insurance who were once very traditional now used referral system to attract more clients ect...I think you are seriously wasting your time. How many mlm companies are there working perfectly and making billions of dollar and impacting lives of people while you are trying to create that negativity? I don't believe you are teaching anything positive here. Contribute your time to charity instead more useful. MLM companies can't run their business if there is nothing legal to it. Common sense. You never write an article when someone who has served a company faithfully for over 20 years is fire and left broke. Go write about that. People loose their homes go write about that. People overwork at a job and have no fair compensation write about that.Truth be toldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05794511449445395849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-21191509335113640192017-10-28T13:25:58.651-07:002017-10-28T13:25:58.651-07:00Got any citing for your "fact"?Got any citing for your "fact"? GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-49058736448522325412017-10-27T17:15:38.386-07:002017-10-27T17:15:38.386-07:00Fact is Harvard Business School used one of the to...Fact is Harvard Business School used one of the top MLM company in the world as study material to teach exponential business marketing concept. Maybe there have been students doing research on MLM as final year paper or something. But there definitely was no record of the school itself doing any official research on MLM, etcEdwardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07229136507814755736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-3348598562199358942017-05-18T12:41:13.244-07:002017-05-18T12:41:13.244-07:00American government (don't remember the depart...American government (don't remember the department or agency) has issued circular to make general public aware of the difference between a network marketing company and a pyramid scheme. that legitimize the REAL network marketing industry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-10689896650090640692016-08-18T03:03:47.696-07:002016-08-18T03:03:47.696-07:00If you equate criticism with skepticism, you'r...If you equate criticism with skepticism, you're the one who's living in fear. Skepticism means "looking for evidence and proof, whether positive or negative.". It seems you are simply not willing to see negative information, and why would you be afraid of the truth? Perhaps those "legitimate" mlm companies are not as legitimate as you suspect? Is that why you can't tolerate criticism and skepticism? GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-81384656356966686182016-08-16T19:54:18.931-07:002016-08-16T19:54:18.931-07:00Criticism and skepticism stems from fear. Do your ...Criticism and skepticism stems from fear. Do your research since youre good at it and join a legitimate mlm company and go have fun!!! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-84792072465746603412016-04-09T12:23:39.083-07:002016-04-09T12:23:39.083-07:00You're so off topic you're in orbit around...You're so off topic you're in orbit around Mars. This topic is about a MLM Myth being busted, not about "MLM bashing". When you rebut, at least be on topic. GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-8216313112088486032016-04-09T12:10:52.364-07:002016-04-09T12:10:52.364-07:00I am a skeptic, not a critic. It appears that you ...I am a skeptic, not a critic. It appears that you are thinking of somebody else. GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-17724022979758201312016-04-09T12:09:53.031-07:002016-04-09T12:09:53.031-07:00It seems you assumed I feel a certain way about ML...It seems you assumed I feel a certain way about MLM. <br /><br />I am a skeptic. Feelings would get in my way to finding the truth. <br /><br />I am sorry you are deluded into thinking that I have apparently negative feelings about MLM. You may want to reevaluate your own mindset, treating criticism and skepticism as "negativity". GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-16950793059892832972016-04-06T20:23:01.190-07:002016-04-06T20:23:01.190-07:00I am currently in a start up that is what the stan...I am currently in a start up that is what the standard for mlm should be. true ethics and upfront about the expectations. I have also watch many people become wealthy within a years time of joining, others have joined and quit and some such as my self are chugging along and learning and slowly implementing the thing we need to learn to be successful. This is truly a great industry its just got a high failure rate as would law or medical school if it where so easy to get involved. I know keep going because I know with time I will become successful. You have to be willing to fail and keep going even when everything tells you to quit. successful people don't let failure stop them. don't stop 3 feet from gold.<br />Sure there are bad companies out there but they don't represent all. I'm sure you have had bad relationships before but I bet that didn't stop you from dating again.<br /> I am sorry you feel the way you do about MLMAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03423485801933834016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-87305011751418622072016-03-11T08:36:23.322-08:002016-03-11T08:36:23.322-08:00First off I respect the time you took to write all...First off I respect the time you took to write all this. But in order for you to be more credible and trusted, you can't go by the name like amlmskeptic. I can go make a website like agovernmentskeptic or afastfoodskeptic. Secondly, have you been involved with an mlm company previously? Have you joined at the very beginning stages of the company and failed? Sounds like to me you must have joined a well known company that's been around for years and failed. To be honest and helpful for your cause, you definitely need to prove that mlm does not work and prove it. Otherwise you may appear to be a troll. Best wishes and I'll see you at the top!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08168941431971093488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-22324615353873311762016-01-23T12:12:46.734-08:002016-01-23T12:12:46.734-08:00Demond Crump and David Imonitie are examples of pe...Demond Crump and David Imonitie are examples of people whose professions were actually perspectively, car detailer and college student. Both built multi-million dollar networks without any relative start up money or influence. You may not be a fan of the industry, but there are several people who have made 6 and 7 figure incomes from network marketing and following the principles that it teaches. If you really want your point to come off as imprudent and actually informative, don't take such a bashing approach, because there have been more millionaires made from network marketing than any other industry. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06101833710209681510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-15438548044922862822015-07-22T12:25:04.069-07:002015-07-22T12:25:04.069-07:00I am aware of Dr. C W King's curriculum. The p...I am aware of Dr. C W King's curriculum. The point is nobody had tied him to these supposedly "Harvard Business School" study that MLMers had been touting for YEARS. <br /><br />Rumor has it that his wife is a MLMer. I haven't checked that yet. GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-26690757848921139622015-07-21T12:58:46.608-07:002015-07-21T12:58:46.608-07:00Dr. Charles W. King teaches marketing at the Unive...Dr. Charles W. King teaches marketing at the University of Illinois Chicago. He received his doctorate from Harvard University. It does appear he teaches aspects of Networking Marketing as part of his marketing curriculum at UIC. http://business.uic.edu/docs/default-source/managerial-studies-cvs/king_cv_may-13.pdf?sfvrsn=2 Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15594470181575365414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-14937883417918503052015-07-12T12:03:49.697-07:002015-07-12T12:03:49.697-07:00Two additional points to make
1) If you read the ...Two additional points to make<br /><br />1) If you read the end of my blog post, I explained that half of assertions are from "Wave 3" book, the other three are proven to be at best, half-truths. <br /><br />2) I actually watched the entire video, and the guy actually never discussed multi-level marketing. He actually discussed referral marketing but mixed with MLM terminology like downlines (he called them "descendents"), where participants earned commission on referred sales, and does not sell products personally like in true MLM. Most of the talk is about how the referral system works, and how it is vulnerable to shilling (sybil attacks / sockpuppeting ) and how mechanisms can be tweaked by parameters in the "geometric reward mechanism" <br /><br />In other words, it's not about MLM, but about a THEORETICAL model of something that resembles a mix of MLM and referral marketing. It doesn't teach MLM. <br /><br />He even equated MLM to pyramid scheme multiple times. Not exactly a sounding endorsement of the MLM world. GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-81150373497389850512015-07-12T11:05:28.117-07:002015-07-12T11:05:28.117-07:00I personally don't see why you consider the ar...I personally don't see why you consider the article to be NOT level headed, but it's perhaps I wrote it. <br /><br />The "class" you referred to is a one hour seminar where a computer science guy used multi-level marketing as an example of existing "reward mechanism" to created a balanced system. it's actually not about MLM, but rather, system design. In other words, it doesn't teach MLM, it teaches system design using MLM as a case study (i.e. pros and cons)<br /><br />Interesting find though. Thanks for sharing. GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-82779187503034154622015-07-11T20:27:37.486-07:002015-07-11T20:27:37.486-07:00I find when taking advise from someone I look at h...I find when taking advise from someone I look at how they introduce the information and how much emotion they use when explaining their view. Can they show a level head and can admit when they are wrong. This blog is riddle with emotion almost as though the writer was busting as the seam to prove their worth. When you know what you're posting about is factual you keep a level head because you have the truth on your side. When you become heated or heavy handed with rude comments you know they have lost the argument. With that being said, I continued on my search and went to the source. Harvard Business School cites articles about MLM / Network Marketing but I couldn't find a class on it.<br /><br />I did check Harvard University and found a class, which was also recorded. You can check it out here.<br /><br />http://crcs.seas.harvard.edu/event/yuval-emek-mechanisms-multi-level-marketing<br /><br />The reality is I can't confirm if Harvard came up with that criteria but what I can say as someone who has multiple businesses that's pretty solid advise. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01505870890533316012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-43156530851729919642015-05-27T02:29:32.791-07:002015-05-27T02:29:32.791-07:00If you redefine reality against the laws and regul...If you redefine reality against the laws and regulation you're not going to last very long in the real world, and you attempt to malign the regular corporate world as "that is the real pyramid scheme" is just a lame ad hominem. <br /><br />The answer to your question is in my FAQ section. GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-47081357866369778812015-05-21T23:23:24.874-07:002015-05-21T23:23:24.874-07:00Kasey, I do network marketing and I'm pretty n...Kasey, I do network marketing and I'm pretty new at it. I really like sharing and helping poeple with products that I feel can help others as well as the lifestyle of not working for a CEO, His managers, their supervisors, and their empoyee solidiers. In my mind, that is the REAL pyramid scheme. Harvard may not teach MLM in their curriculum, but at the growing rate of this industry, perhaps they should. May I ask, are you personally earning an MLM income? What is your personal take on MLM? I apologize you may have already commented on this but I did only skimmed through most of them after a while. Thanks for helping MLM -ers make truthful statements. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-4839160321558440212015-04-12T22:11:57.351-07:002015-04-12T22:11:57.351-07:00It seems you didn't even notice that Harvard U...It seems you didn't even notice that Harvard University (harvard.edu) and Harvard Business School (hbs.edu) are separate schools. Tsk, tsk, tsk. GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-4014665350309542732015-04-12T22:07:22.428-07:002015-04-12T22:07:22.428-07:00Furthermore... You cited Harvard University. I was...Furthermore... You cited Harvard University. I was talking about Harvard Business School. Related, but NOT THE SAME THING. <br /><br />Thanks for not paying attention. Makes debating you effortless. GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7600505010903219424.post-42428351669849031742015-04-12T22:04:50.719-07:002015-04-12T22:04:50.719-07:00Oh, and it's interesting you can't tell th...Oh, and it's interesting you can't tell the difference between Harvard University and Harvard Business School. <br /><br />When you bark, can you please bark up the right tree? GuyReviewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17270600804829601202noreply@blogger.com